FW: [momkiv] alignment

Wed Apr 7 14:36:05 CDT 2004

i don't care how long it takes, i'll bring my chair and a 12 pack
just to watch ;)

i just want it done exact.

sounds like i need to change out my rear tie rod now as well.

Bill H.

---- Original Message ----
From: depap at sbcglobal.net
To: momkiv at mkiv.com
Subject: RE: FW: [momkiv] alignment
Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 14:14:17 -0500

>I believe he is a Mechanical Engineer for the alignment machines.
>Between
>him and his coworkers, they should know everything there is to know
>about
>alignments. I don't know where to send you. The last time I did mine,
>I took
>it to Hunter and we just took our time dialing it in ourselves to
>"Lance's"
>specs. It can be time consuming to get it right.
>
>Dean
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: momkiv-bounces at mkiv.com [mailto:momkiv-bounces at mkiv.com] On
>Behalf Of
>Bill H.
>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:19 PM
>To: momkiv at mkiv.com
>Subject: RE: FW: [momkiv] alignment
>
>interesting.  what does your buddy do for hunter?  is there a place
>he knows that can accuratly dial in an alignment for our cars?  
>
>there is only one right hand turn at gateway :(  
>but at black hawk they are 90% rights ;)
>
>and i do believe my tires only last a few thousand miles to begin
>with :) 
>
>
>Bill (which way does nascar turn?)H.
>www.stlsupra.com
>---- Original Message ----
>From: depap at sbcglobal.net
>To: momkiv at mkiv.com
>Subject: RE: FW: [momkiv] alignment
>Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 11:56:20 -0500
>
>>Bill,
>>Here is some more brain work for you. This is the response I got on
>>your
>>alignment questions from a friend that works at Hunter Engineering.
>>
>>Dean
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Meyer, Greg [mailto:GMeyer at Hunter.COM] 
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:47 AM
>>To: Dean Pearch
>>Subject: RE: [momkiv] alignment
>>
>>A little toe-in in the rear is desirable and is shown as a positive
>>number
>>on the alignment printout.  The specs for a 93-98 Supra Turbo total
>>rear
>>toe show .3 +/- .1 degrees or 3.81+/- 1.27mm.  The reading of .52
>>degrees
>>total rear toe is out of spec and should be changed if possible. 
>The
>>left
>>rear tire will most likely show wear on the outer shoulder after a
>>few
>>thousand miles and the car is likely turn right better than left. 
>>There
>>may also be a pull to the right from the resultant thrust angle of
>>+.26
>>degrees when hard on the gas.  Toyota does not specify a thrust
>angle
>>tolerance, but most performance cars are around +/- .15 degrees.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Dean Pearch [mailto:depap at sbcglobal.net]
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:58 AM
>>To: Meyer, Greg
>>Subject: FW: [momkiv] alignment
>>
>>
>>Greg,
>>Do you have an answer for these alignment questions?
>>
>>Dean
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: momkiv-bounces at mkiv.com [mailto:momkiv-bounces at mkiv.com] On
>>Behalf
>>Of
>>Steve V.
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 9:07 AM
>>To: 'The Missouri Supras Mailing List'
>>Subject: RE: [momkiv] alignment
>>
>>
>>Dunno if the Hunter machine lists toe in as a negative number.
>>
>>To convert to degrees:
>>wheel + rear tire diameter = (275 * .4 * 2) + 17 * 25.4 = 651.8mm
>>arcsin(1mm / 651.8mm) = .087 deg (this is the goal)
>>
>>sin(.48) * 651.8 = 5.5mm of friggin toe!
>>
>>As Lance says toe in is critical I'm going to guess that those toe
>in
>>numbers are bad.
>>
>>Steve
>>
>>----
>>Steve V. | 1997 6spd T61 | http://www.moreboost.org   
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: momkiv-bounces at mkiv.com 
>>> [mailto:momkiv-bounces at mkiv.com] On Behalf Of Bill H.
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:31 AM
>>> To: momkiv at mkiv.com
>>> Subject: [momkiv] alignment
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Well i picked up my car from keith at autotire.  they did the 
>>> alignment.  first big problem he saw was the front passenger 
>>> side tie rod was bent.  (back in 2000, i hit a curb and paid 
>>> roughly 3k to a shop that supposedly fixed everything)  so i 
>>> took the car back and ordered a new tie rod.  car feels 
>>> amazing now.  i have no clue what the previous numbers were 
>>> since they wern't on the printout :(  but i can feel a HUGE 
>>> difference.  i took lance's specs and added a tad bit more 
>>> camber front and back.  the car just wants to turn now...
>>> 
>>> in trying to intrpret the new numbers i looked at what i had 
>>> written down from the 'lance' specs.  the rear toe i had 
>>> listed as Toe IN 
>>> 1.0 mm does this mean -1.00?    
>>> 
>>> my results for rear toe were .48 left and .04 right.  keith 
>>> mentioned a stuck bolt thats starting to round and said i'd 
>>> see it in the numbers.  but that leads my question is the 
>>> 'in' + or - (trying to figure out why my rear toe is so spread)
>>> 
>>> bill h.
>>> www.stlsupra.com
>>> 
>>> 
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